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  • 1.  Check coupling alignment or rely on vibration monitoring?

    Posted 05-01-2024 02:30 PM
    Hello everyone,
    I'm working on the PM of our new Flowserve model VPC 12EMM/7 Stage vertical pumps and the manufacturer's manual says: "Check coupling alignment and realign if necessary." We do it annually and we have a CBM program that inspects these pumps every 2 months. (We already have 2 pumps running and I am analyzing the PM for the 2 new ones for an additional production line). I would like to ask if I have a CBM program on these pumps, is it necessary to check the coupling alignment or rely on vibration monitoring and realign whenever CBM requires it? What do you think based on your experience?

    Operational Context: The main pump works almost all day and another one is in reserve, in some cases the reserve pump works in parallel with the main one but only for a few minutes.

    Best regards
    Raul Alvarez Caycho
    Mechanical Maintenance Supervisor al Pluspetrol Peru Corporation


  • 2.  RE: Check coupling alignment or rely on vibration monitoring?

    Posted 05-02-2024 07:04 AM

    The great thing about a pump is that it is well-suited to condition-based monitoring. Align the shafts properly at installation, and then use vibration analysis and ultrasound-based lubrication to monitor. If it is oil-lubricated, do a quick listen with ultrasound when you're there to grease the motor. If the shaft guard is designed correctly (expanded metal sides for ventilation and visibility), you can use a strobe light to inspect the coupling while it is running and you can inspect with infrared. (The clear plastic guards are a neat idea, but they don't allow infrared inspection.)

    If the pump and base are designed and installed correctly, there is no reason they should go out of alignment. If they do, the vibration signature will change, and infrared will show that the coupling center (if it's an elastomer) is hotter than the coupling hubs. Extreme misalignment will also cause the two inboard bearings to be abnormally hot also. I don't do alignment checks on my rotating equipment unless I have data that says there is a need to. 



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    Dale Nicholson, PE, CMRP
    Reliability Engineering Manager
    Evonik Corp
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  • 3.  RE: Check coupling alignment or rely on vibration monitoring?

    Posted 05-02-2024 07:46 AM
    Edited by Kevin Riner 05-02-2024 07:49 AM

    I agree with everything Dale mentions.   We do not do any alignment checks on our pumps unless vibration and bearing temperatures indicate there is a problem.  



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    Kevin Riner

    Sr. Mgr Reliability, Evergy Inc.
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  • 4.  RE: Check coupling alignment or rely on vibration monitoring?

    Posted 05-02-2024 08:26 AM
    Hi Mr. Caycho,

    I'm responding to needing an annual PM if you have CBM. So, it seems the question is how effective is the CBM program?  How often is CBM detecting issues?

    Some questions:
    What was the goal of implementing CBM? Was it to replace the time-based PM?
    What is the current goal of the PM?
    How long can the pumps go without realignment (MTBF)? 

    Vibration analysis is very effective in detecting misalignment.

    My initial response is, since you are using both maintenance strategies, you'll have a good sense of which is most effective, but shouldn't need CBM & PM doing the same thing. The active annual PM might hinder you from knowing how long you can go without realignment, assuming no issues were detected by CBM within a year. If the PM includes non-vibration / alignment maintenance, it should be kept. Otherwise, I don't believe you need the PM, if CBM detecting realignment in less than a year. 

    Is CBM detecting an issue within 2 months after the annual PM is completed? Would that duration be shorter or longer if the PM was not performed.

    Regards,

    Randolph


     

     

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  • 5.  RE: Check coupling alignment or rely on vibration monitoring?

    Posted 05-02-2024 08:36 AM

    Hi Raul,

    This is a real opportunity where you can optimize your PMs. It seems like your team does vibration checks every two months which should be able to detect any misalignments with the couplings. One of the main reasons of doing condition monitoring such as vibration checks is to know the potential failure early enough so that once detected, it can be appropriately scheduled and remediated. Hence, I would suggest on doing the coupling alignment only once you get some indications from the vibration checks.

    Coupling alignment check is more invasive compared to vibration check, so it opens up more chances of introducing human errors to the pump as well. Besides, you would also need to have some downtime for the coupling check. 



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    Nimesh Kunwar
    Durham NC
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  • 6.  RE: Check coupling alignment or rely on vibration monitoring?

    Posted 05-02-2024 08:52 AM

    Funny this came up recently in a conversation with some maintenance leads.  

    If you have a good vibration analysis and predictive maintenance program, it will find misalignment fairly easy.  If you are having running equipment get misaligned after operating some period of time, there is another fundamental problem - baseplate, installation, etc.

    Doing a hot alignment to deal with thermal growth is about the only time I might go back and realign outside of letting my vibration analysis dictate the need.

    I've observed OEMs sometimes go overboard on PM checks.  Many still have in their manuals to change oil every 2000 hours but that is extreme overkill.  I've done oil analysis on pumps running synthetic oil after 2 and 3 years with no degradation of the lube oil. 

    If you did start down that road of some routine alignment, if you didn't find it misaligned in 3-4 times, you should extend and quite the process.  If you do find something misaligned every time, then some RCFA needs to be initiated to find out what the root causes are.

    Good question.



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    Randy Riddell, CMRP, PSAP, CLS
    Reliability Manager
    Essity
    Cherokee AL
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