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  • 1.  Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-06-2023 06:38 AM
    Greetings Fellow Practitioners

    Last week I had a scenario whereby a conveyor belt ripped in half causing a major down time. I’ve been tasked with the RCA but can’t wrap my head around what could’ve caused this.

    Any one experience this?


  • 2.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-06-2023 11:46 AM

    Hello Lesiba, 

    Have you thought about the following that could cause a conveyor belt to rip in half, including:

    1. Overloading: If the conveyor belt is carrying a load that exceeds its weight capacity, it can cause the belt to stretch beyond its limit and eventually break.

    2. Misaligned pulleys: If the pulleys that guide the conveyor belt are not properly aligned, it can cause the belt to shift to one side, resulting in uneven wear and tear that can eventually lead to a tear.

    3. Material build-up: If the conveyor belt is used to transport materials that have a tendency to stick, such as wet or sticky substances, it can cause material build-up on the belt, which can increase the weight and stress on the belt, eventually leading to a break.

    4. Poor maintenance: If the conveyor belt is not properly maintained, such as lack of regular cleaning or lubrication, it can cause wear and tear that can weaken the belt over time, leading to a break.

    5. Wear and tear: Over time, the constant friction and stress placed on the conveyor belt can cause it to wear out, weaken, and eventually break.

    Thoughts?



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    Aaron Schultz
    Principal Consultant
    University of Texas at Dallas
    Dallas TX
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  • 3.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 06:32 AM
    Hi Aaron

    Thank you for the response. Funny enough we have considered what you’d mentioned and it seems to be none.

    Our sensors show no signs of overloading in fact at the time of failure we read 60% of max capacity.

    We also have belt drift sensor for instances that the pulley is misaligned.

    The tear happened in the middle of the end points of a hot splice, which we expect the end of the spice to she damage first.

    Regards

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    Lesiba Moja BEng
    Reliability Coordinator
    First Quantum Minerals
    Kempton Park
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  • 4.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 05-11-2023 09:59 AM

    It could be a bad weld, maybe a pin hole that expanded?   Also roller buildup possibly ? 



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    Joshua Cannon
    Director, Technical Enablement
    Takeoff Technologies
    Union Dale PA
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  • 5.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 06:40 AM
    Can you give more details?
    What length is the conveyor belt?
    What are the conditions of the troughing & return rollers.
    What product is the conveyor moving.
    How does the product get put on the conveyor? 
    Is there an impact bed?
    How old is the belt?
    Is the coveyor outside, covered?
    How is the belt put together, lacing or vulcanized? 





  • 6.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 06:52 AM
    Sure thing Randy
    The belt is about 627 - 640 meters

    They seem fairly okay no sign of a roller having any sharp edges

    Copper ore

    Has about 3 cone crushers feed the belt through chutes (all separate)

    The the belt is about 5 years old but I’ll have to confirm this one

    The belt is not covered and exposed to the elements

    It’s vulcanised

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    Lesiba Moja BEng
    Reliability Coordinator
    First Quantum Minerals
    Kempton Park
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  • 7.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 07:01 AM
    I forgot to ask about speed sensors and are they working correctly. 
    Does the drive drum have ceramic lagging.





  • 8.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 12:49 PM
    @Randy Rhodes Actually the reason we found out about was because of the speed sensors. And I’ll have to check if it’s ceramic tilled.

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    Lesiba Moja BEng
    Reliability Coordinator
    First Quantum Minerals
    Kempton Park
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  • 9.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 07:32 AM

    Hello Lesiba 

    I am quite interested in the case analysis, I would like to know the procedure used to inspect the belt condition. My guess the failure started earlier, but the symptoms of failure are very hard to be noticed. My suggestion is the belt should be replaced based on age only regardless of it is condition, and the belt supplier hundred percent will warrant that.  



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    AHMEDELMUKHTAR MOHAMMED BEng
    Diesel Service Manager
    GENERAL AUTOMOTIVE COMPANY AUTOSTAR
    Riyadh
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  • 10.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 12:51 PM
    @AHMEDELMUKHTAR MOHAMMED we inspect on a weekly basis from the condition monitoring (running) And only do static visual inspections during shutdowns or opportunistically. You’re right we should probably replace the belt even though it looks fairly okay

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    Lesiba Moja BEng
    Reliability Coordinator
    First Quantum Minerals
    Kempton Park
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  • 11.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 08:13 AM

    Hello Lesiba,

    It has been my experience that conveyor belting failures often occur very quickly once the initial fault occurs. A small puncture from a sharp piece of ore or a foreign object can propagate to a complete separation in just a few hours or even faster, depending on the age of the belt and operating conditions.
    I noted you said the belt had been in service for possibly up to 5 years? I agree that conveyor belting should be replaced based on time in service. Your vendor should be able to help in determining the expected service life of your belting.
    Just based on where the failure occurred, I would suspect that the splice failed. There are several "ends" on a laminated/vulcanized splice, not just the ones you can see externally. I would start there, but your vendor should be able to help with this as well.

    Best of luck.



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    Walt Coltrin MLA1, CMRT
    Maintenance Planner/Scheduler
    Nixa MO
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  • 12.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 12:53 PM
    @Walter Coltrin actually I may have overlooked that a puncture occurred. And as the we continued loading it gradually failed (without us noticing)

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    Lesiba Moja BEng
    Reliability Coordinator
    First Quantum Minerals
    Kempton Park
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  • 13.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-19-2023 06:43 AM
    Edited by Vinay Maithani 04-19-2023 07:14 AM

    Do you have Metal Detector installed and functional ? 

    In case you have a number of conveyors like this to handle then it would a good idea to explore portable Conveyor Belt Steel Cord condition monitoring system to help you gauge the Condition of steel cord while informing you of their condition status such as rusted, broken, fatigued etc. 



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    Vinay Maithani,
    Dubai United Arab Emirates
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  • 14.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 08:27 AM

    The first thing I would do is focus on the failure area itself.  Describe the tear in detail.  Need to understand the failure mode of the belt. 
    Was belt torn straight across or angled?  What was thickness of belt compared to new?  Any edge wear/rubbing type damage?  Any holes in belt or localized wear?  Did it fail starting in middle of belt or edge?

    Some other questions:

    What was the condition of the belt at the time of failure? Wear? Holes? Rubs? Rubber hardness compared to new?
    What was the conveyor load at the time of failure?  Of material? On drive motors?
    How was the belt found?  Where was it found in the conveyor run when failed?
    Did the failure occur at a vulcanization area?
    How has belt tracking been prior to failure?
    How has belt tension been prior to failure?

    Lots of good feedback from others.  Good luck.



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    Randy Riddell, CMRP, PSAP, CLS
    Reliability Manager
    Essity
    Cherokee AL
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  • 15.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 12:01 PM
    Misalignment of tensioning roller.





  • 16.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-24-2023 07:23 PM

    That was my first thought, too. Comparing the torn area with new. Age, speed & feed, environmental (heat, cold, moisture, light/sun exposure), out of tension... Lot's of us would like to get an update on how this goes.  Amanda "Amy" Villameriel, CMRP & CRE



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    Amanda Villameriel BSME, MBA, CMRP
    Reliability Engineer
    Mt Zion IL
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  • 17.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 12:55 PM
    Pictures of the Scene

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    Lesiba Moja BEng
    Reliability Coordinator
    First Quantum Minerals
    Kempton Park
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  • 18.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-07-2023 03:08 PM

    Hi Lesiba,

    Did it rip along or across the belt?
    I once experienced a similar case of a belt rip due to a collapsed pulley which then went on to cut the belt along as it moved. Also, another cause of the rip could be tramp metal cutting the belt, do you have any metal dictators installed to detect such?



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    Shelton Ndlovu
    Assistant Reliability Engineer
    Glenrise Investments
    Bulawayo
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  • 19.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-21-2023 02:10 PM

    Hi Shelton 

    It ripped across the belt. Yes there is a metal detector before the crushers but not after on the very belt.



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    Lesiba Moja BEng
    Reliability Coordinator
    First Quantum Minerals
    Kempton Park
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  • 20.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-24-2023 08:54 AM

    Dear Lesiba,
    The case is interesting, and ultimately the contributions and comments from the colleagues is very good. On the other hand, I can share my own experience in the failure of a band, I suggest, like the colleagues, to evaluate the following:
    1. Operative: Loads, sudden changes
    2. Equipment: Cleaning system, rock encrustation, presence of metal, protection system against metals. tensioning system, age of the band, lifetime of the band.
    3 Routine inspection: Scope of inspection, in the splice, band seals, wear rate, openings, detachment, rubber cuts and types of cut, follow-up to observations.

    Regard

    Vladimir Tasayco
    Reliability Engineer 



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    Vladimir Tasayco Sanchez
    Colón
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  • 21.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-26-2023 11:00 AM
    Hi fellow members

    Thank you for assisting and valuable suggestions. We concluded on the belt may have gotten punctured as we have a diverter that directs any metals to that belt instead of the crushers.

    With that said because the splice was new and inspected the day prior it may have been a puncture that lead to the belt tearing over a time frame of 4-5 hours of normal operation.

    Regards

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    Lesiba Moja BEng
    Reliability Coordinator
    First Quantum Minerals
    Kempton Park
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  • 22.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-21-2023 02:09 PM

    Was it a laced belt? I always dealt with these types of issues when I was working in Amazon Fulfilment Centers here in California.

    Your issue might be tension way too tight.

    Product getting stuck causing friction and very small punctures, bad lacing (no dog earing when installed), Tension issuses, etc.



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    Glen Fulgencia CMRP
    Maintenance Specialist
    OC Waste & Recycling
    Santa Ana CA
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  • 23.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-25-2023 07:48 AM

    Product, copper ore, may be hit the conveyor from the chute to the belt seam. Punctured it and caused friction to start the rip. 



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    Amanda Villameriel BSME, MBA, CMRP
    Reliability Engineer
    Mt Zion IL
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  • 24.  RE: Conveyor Belt Damage

    Posted 04-26-2023 11:01 AM
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    Lesiba Moja BEng
    Reliability Coordinator
    First Quantum Minerals
    Kempton Park
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